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Michael Kratsios, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and former Chief Technology Officer of the United States under Trump’s first term, joins the All-In Podcast to lay out the administration’s formal science and technology agenda, published in a report titled “Science: A New Golden Age.”
The centerpiece announcement is the Genesis Mission — a government-wide initiative to double US scientific output by systematically applying AI across disciplines including physics, chemistry, materials science, and mathematics. Kratsios frames AI as the most significant unlock for scientific discovery in history and describes an all-of-government coordination effort to direct agency resources toward that goal. He also outlines a new National Quantum Initiative executive order targeting a scientifically relevant quantum computer by 2028, fusion energy goals for 2035, American boots on the moon by 2028, and the first elements of a moon base by 2030.
On the perception that the Trump administration is anti-science — supported by a Nature poll showing 86% of its readers backed Kamala Harris versus 6% for Trump — Kratsios argues that science was deeply politicized during COVID, and that returning to the scientific method means restoring inquiry over authority. The conversation also covers DEI rollbacks in research funding, Fauci’s legacy, and China’s growing role as a scientific competitor, with Kratsios consistently framing US strategy around speed, bold bets, and AI-accelerated discovery.
📺 Source: All-In Podcast · Published August 24, 2026
🏷️ Format: Interview
